• USATF Colorado's Impact: Part 2 of 2

    All right, so in the first post it was clear that elites supported the USATF Colorado championship races. For guys that have sponsor obligations to fulfill and are chasing sponsors, saying that you won the USATF Colorado State Championship carries more weight than saying you won the Evergreen 10K or the Boulder Marathon. To really make it worthwhile for both USATF and the races though, they need more than just elites. In a Facebook comment, Denver's Dan Edstrom, a 2:40 marathoner, indicated that he was not a USATF member, and didn't know why he should be. Dan competed in one of the USATF Colorado Grand Prix races this year, the Stadium Stampede 5K, where he placed 13th. That's a solid place in a competitive race, but he was almost two minutes out of the money. What if, as Mike Sharkey indicated in the comments to the first post, money instead went 10-deep? Then Dan would have a legitimate shot at collecting some money, and would have an incentive to purchase a USATF Colorado membership for $30. He won his age group, so what if, as Tyler McCandless suggested, Dan got a USATF Age Group State Champion trophy? I believe USATF did give out age group medals this year, but most will agree that medals aren't much of an incentive.



    Looking at the Heart & Sole half marathon, the same situation holds. The tenth-place male was nine minutes back of the final money spot. With money going three-deep, and whether I posted an elite entrant list or not, that athlete knew that he wasn't going to be competing for a prize money. It's likely the same with the remaining races.

    If USATF extended prize money to five- or ten-deep, the depth of the field would surely increase. I'd be tempted to enter the races myself and maybe sneak into a money spot.

    USATF Colorado did extend commemorative jackets to USATF runners competing in three of the four Grand Prix races. My recommendation was to take those dollars and instead use them for age group trophies in 2012.

    For what it's worth, USATF does list the benefits that accompany the $30 annual fee:

    Would more local discounts be worthwhile - a discount to one of the local running stores, to the championship races, or to the Grand Prix series?

    As they look forward, what else could they do for 2012? Mike Sharkey recommended keeping the championships to three distances - 5K, 10K, and half, but if a 25K wants to hold a championship race and willing to comply with USATF's requirements, should they say no?

    Mike specifically commented on the marathon and what perplexed me with this year's Boulder Marathon was that the third-place male and the first-, second-, and third-place master's men were not USATF Colorado members. I think the first master may have been from out of state, and the second master had a unique situation, but for the others, the potential for prize money was not incentive enough to seek out a USATF membership?

    Should the championships be linked into a series, and if so, is overall series money needed to create a true "series"?

    They have also discussed holding a team competition, perhaps within a cross country race. Many of us recognize the success that the east coast racing scene has with the team format. Here in Colorado though, we have no one that can rival Boulder Running Company / adidas and it'd be a one-sided affair. Most teams would struggle to field complete teams in Colorado races.

    USATF Colorado is then seeking input and feedback as they plan and improve in 2012. Thanks to those that contributed to that discussion in the first post and all meaningful comments are welcome. If not willing to post one's thoughts below, let us know and we can get you in touch with them.
    Comments 5 Comments
    1. Patrick Garcia's Avatar
      Patrick Garcia -
      Interesting. I would echo Tyler's sentiments about the title bringing distinction to an event.

      RE: trail/ultra runs, I think that adding $ (even in a small amount) would draw folks that otherwise wouldn't run. For example, what reason did Michael Dominguez have to run his first ultra at Cheyenne Mountain (a relatively boring course while being a bit long and slow) rather than at the traditionally fast Greenland 50K just a week later? Pretty sure the $500 was a big factor. And that was it, no 2nd or 3rd payout.

      If there were a 50M race (Collegiate Peaks?) that paid out cash, why wouldn't there be a reason for Colorado's elite ultrarunners (which also represent a large portion of the Nation's elite) to take a stab at it, especially if like CP it was an early season race and a good primer for other events they're bound to do anyways?
    1. bill nelson's Avatar
      bill nelson -
      I think $30 is reasonable to support the sport. The problem is awareness which the races this year help raise the profile of the USATF-CO. Looking at the USATF-CO website, I learned that there are indoor meets. Before that, I didn't even know there were. I would be nice if your membership got you free or greatly reduced entry to these.

      The USATF-CO should also have a booth at EVERY major race to get the word out. CC Sneak, Colfax, Running of the Green, Bolder Boulder, etc.

      not that I am close to getting one but a trophy isn't any more incentive that a medal.
    1. Unregistered's Avatar
      Unregistered -
      I agree with bill nelson; $30 is not much to support the sport.
      And a medal is just as good as a trophy for me, actually better because they don't take up as much space.
      Prizes, either $ or gear (or other stuff) are more welcome than hardware.

      If an event is going to be USATF sanctioned, the event sponsor should be obligated to offer temporary or annual registration with USATF on the entry form. Otherwise there will be too many situations like the Boulder Marathon, where high placers left money on the table.

      I think that if an organizer is willing to fulfill sanction requirements, the race should be able to receive sanction (if no other race at that distance has already received USATF Championship status).
      This could mean, however, that there would be championships (and champions) in only some years, and not annually. Maybe not an issue, but it could weaken the clout and reputation of USATF sanctioning.

      It was clear that the prize money in the Lead King Loop 25K drew a much more competitive field than in past years.

      Go USATF!
    1. jim gilbert's Avatar
      jim gilbert -
      Thanks for the article jmock and raising awareness and discussion about USATF-CO. I began competing in USATF Masters T&F here in CO a couple years ago - tho' I might show up now that I know about the 5k road race, barring injury Master's indoor and outdoor (see Rocky Mountain Masters Games) is a blast for me and I appreciate the opportunity that USATF-CO has given all of us here in Colorado, both Masters and JO. Prize money for Masters? LOL I agree with prior comments, give mine to those who are coming up - the next Jenny Simpson, Lopez Lomong, David Oliver, or whomever. I don't even need medals or a trophy either - got enough of those sitting in the attic collecting dust; state champ jersey - maybe, but not enough to tear a muscle for - I joined USATF to support the sport and the kids coming up. That is enough for me.
    1. Unregistered's Avatar
      Unregistered -
      USATF is getting ripped on here.

      USATF offering $10 memberships until end of year
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